About this Episode:

A wide ranging discussion about patterns of change and the current state of the world, co-published with the Awake Aware Alive Podcast thanks to Jacob Gossel: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43551846

Part 2 of this episode is available at https://www.futuresense.it/137-steve-mcdonald-interviewed-by-jacob-gossel-of-awake-aware-alive-part-2/

Recorded on 5th November, 2020 in Byron Bay, Australia.

Links and resources 

Music by Stellardrone (free) https://stellardrone.bandcamp.com 
The Change Code book https://thechangecode.net